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The Profitable Coach Training
For coaches, healers and consultants whose
wisdom is real and whose income isn't.
The Real Reason Gifted Coaches Stay Underpaid. It Isn't Your Wisdom.
You've done the certifications. You've posted more. In this 2-hour training, you'll find out the one reason it keeps happening, why prospects leave your calls feeling better and never buy, and the three-step shift that turns both into "I need that."
I'm Kisma Orbovich. For more than a decade, I've helped coaches, healers and consultants build businesses that actually pay them.
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The Question Every Gifted Coach Dreads
Someone asks, "So, what do you do?"
You tell them. Maybe you help women transform.
They smile. "Oh, that's interesting."
And then they remember they have to pick up the kids.
Or it happens on a sales call. They tell you what's going on. You help, because you can't not help. They feel so much better. And then they say, "You know what? Now it's just too much money."
"I get ghosted after they agree to work with me."
Jill, a coach, typing into the chat at one of my trainings
This happens to so many great coaches.
It shows up in seven places. Content. Confidence. Niche. Pricing. Sales. Visibility. Consistency. So coaches fix them one at a time, and the work never stays fixed.
It's not seven problems. It's one thing showing up in seven places.
And it isn't your wisdom. It isn't your logo, your website or another reel. It isn't the next certification either.
There's one reason the right person hears you and doesn't lean in. It's not the one you've been told. In the training I'm going to show you what it is. It's the thing I couldn't see in my own business for years.
It's Called The Profitable Coach Training
The fix has a name. I call it The Profitable Coach Training.
Three steps, in a specific order. Leave behind. Keep. Step into. It's the first thing we do with every coach, and it's the thing most business trainings just leave out. They go straight to your funnel and your content.
I know this from the inside. I fought niche for years. People told me again and again. So why did I keep fighting it? I'm not a dumb person. I knew better.
My very first business coach, back when I still had my yoga studio, was trying to help me with my niche. Everyone at the event was working on theirs. What do you do? Who do you help? And everyone kept trying to stuff mine into something. Finally he said, "You can't figure out Kisma. Just let her be."
It felt good at the time. Oh, I'm special, I can't be put in a box. But it made everything stickier. For years.
Not long ago a doctor said to me, "You're awesome. What do you do? Can I hire you?" And I said, "Well, I create miracles." He said, "Great. Call me." I've been around the block. I can get away with that. You can't yet.
The message was beautiful. But beautiful is not always buyable.
Melanie was a professor and empowerment coach, already running a practice at about $120,000. The fix I saw was a niche she didn't believe she could take. Real estate agents. She told me, "This is scary." I said, "No crap. Go." She went. Through a clear message and that niche, she got up to about $400,000. Today she's close to $700,000. She has a wait list, she's given a TEDx talk, and she's been featured in LA Weekly and The New York Weekly.
I'll show you how we found it in the training.
Two hours, live. The recording is yours to keep. Just $47.
Most Coaches Think the Answer Is More. I Believe the Opposite.
When the clients don't come, most coaches do more. More posts. More reels. More lives. Another certification. A funnel.
I had a client come to me and say, "I just paid fifteen thousand dollars for this funnel, because they said it would make me a million dollars."
And I said, "Honey, we haven't even sorted out your message."
Here's what I believe. Visibility doesn't fix a vague message. It exposes it. If you're vague and you get more visible, you've just got more vague.
So why do smart, gifted coaches keep writing vague messages, even after someone tells them to get specific?
I did. For years.
The answer is going to surprise you. That's where the training starts.
Which of These Have You Said This Year?
These are the lines I hear most from gifted coaches.
"I help women transform." It sounds so good to a coach. But the woman going through a divorce, or a career change, is thinking, "Transform what? I'm just trying to figure out my purpose right now."
"I help people heal." Heal from what? A stomachache? A headache? Surgery?
"I help people find alignment." To a coach, that one should work. To everyone else? "Alignment? What is that?"
"I work with anyone who feels stuck." Someone at the grocery store feels stuck. So does a CEO. They're not hearing the same thing.
The one long paragraph. "I help people who are stuck and fed up with life clear their doubts and limiting beliefs and transform into their best self so they can have more confidence and reach their goals." They say, "Oh, wow," and look away.
If it can mean anything, it sells nothing.
Be honest with yourself. How many of those have come out of your mouth?
If it's even one, you're in the right place.
Who I Am
$4.5 million grossed by Illumination Academy in four years
9 years in the Hong Kong Philharmonic
37 people who joined us in the last four months
16 trips to India to study Vedanta
I'm Kisma Orbovich.
I was a classical musician. It's what I wanted to do since I was twelve years old. I had a coach from twelve, and by fourteen I was teaching music myself. Then one night, in the middle of a concert, I heard a voice say, "You're done." I knew I wanted to help people in a different way.
So I opened a yoga studio. My partner in life, Nick, and I started studying Vedanta with our teacher in India. Then one day, at a small kitchen table, I sat in on an online marketing workshop. That day changed my life.
A few things about me:
Illumination Academy has grossed $4.5 million in four years, with a small team, recurring clients and small in-person retreats.
Our first million-dollar year came right after the worst morning of my business, the day I lost my mentor. I'll tell you that story in the training.
Certified in neurocognitive intelligence with Chase Hughes, and one of his AVERY clinicians. It's a very top tier transformative training, and I run that program for him.
My private clients include a billionaire. And my latest AVERY client was a past presidential candidate. I can't tell you his name.
37 people have joined us in the last four months.
Featured in Entrepreneur, USA Today, Thrive Global, iHeartRADIO and Well+Good.
That's why we're different. We're not marketers selling you a funnel. We're coaches who understand marketing. I study the human all day long, spiritually and neuroscientifically. I still invest six figures a year, every year, in my coaching business. Because I'm always growing, so I can help my clients grow.
"Working with Kisma has absolutely changed both my personal and professional lives. I've increased revenue growth through sales by 400%. It's mind-boggling how good the teachings are."
Lenny Morris, Sales Trainer and Speaker
"But I've Already Done the Certifications. And the Courses."
I know. So have I. Nick and I have invested hundreds of thousands of dollars in different programs over the years.
Here's why it wore off.
So many of them go straight to your funnel. Your content calendar. Your ads.
Amanda came to me after a business training somewhere else that got her so tangled up it created more confusion. She was a stylist, charging per closet clean-out. We cleared up her message. She wasn't just reorganizing closets. She was changing people's souls. She became a soul stylist. She hit six figures, and now she runs retreats in Florence, Milan and Tokyo, and she's working on a TV show.
That's where The Profitable Coach Training starts, and it's the work most business trainings leave out.
"I Don't Want to Be Pushy." You Don't Have to Be.
If you're a heart-centered coach, a sales conversation can feel awkward. Most coaches feel that way when they start.
Clear isn't pushy. Clear is kind. You don't need to become louder. You don't need to copy someone on social media. You just need to become cleaner in what you do. And that works for the deep, intuitive, sensitive coaches just as much as for the executive coaches.
A sales conversation isn't something to be ashamed of. It's a transformational conversation. It's sacred. And when you're clear, it stops feeling like selling at all.
"Since working with Kisma I have doubled my income. I recently negotiated a $25,000 raise and hired an assistant because I finally had the focus, confidence, and energy to ask for both."
Karin E., HR Director and Consultant
What Is Staying Stuck Costing You?
You have the gift. You have the wisdom. So let's look at what the gap is costing you.
Let's do the math the way I do it in the training.
Say your package is $5,000 for three months of coaching. Say staying vague costs you one client a month. Take that one client and times it by twelve.
That's one year of staying where you are.
Now run your own numbers.
Then let me ask you a better question. What is staying stuck costing you? Not just in money. In impact. In the people you're not helping while you wait.
It's difficult to save your way out of scarcity. One client, two clients, can change your whole financial picture.
Who This Is For
Step 2: Opt in for the gifts
This is for you if:
You're coaching or consulting right now, and the income moves around more than you want it to. A great month, then it dips. Another good month, and it dips again. You're good at what you do. You want the right people to know it.
You had a practice, and you stepped away. But the pull never left your heart. You're ready to come back, and you want to come back clear.
You built a career, and people already come to you for the thing you'd coach on. Nurses, engineers, executives. People have been asking you for years, "How do you do that? You calm me down." You know you could help them for real
Step 2: Opt in for the gifts
This is not for you if:
You think clients will simply appear through manifestation, with no real building.
You want someone else to decide your destiny for you.
You're content with exactly where things are, that's okay too.
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Step 2: Opt in for the gifts
What You'll Do in the 2 Hours
Grab a pen. You'll leave with a page you wrote yourself.
"So, what do you do?" The four lines that lose a stranger in one sentence, the paragraph that loses them for good, and why your brain keeps choosing them.
The seven places it shows up. Content, confidence, niche, pricing, sales, visibility and consistency, and the one thing sitting under all seven.
Leave behind, keep, step into. The identity that got you here, won't get you there. You'll get so clear on the version of you that you keep and step into.Three steps, in a specific order. You'll write one line for each step of the The Profitable Coach Training.
Your coach DNA. The three things nobody else has in exactly your combination, and why you undervalue the one that comes most naturally to you.
The live rewrite. Type what you say when someone asks what you do. I rewrite some of them live, so you can hear the difference.
"Now it's just too much money." Why prospects leave your call feeling better and never buy, and the moment on the call where it happens.
Green, yellow, red. How to hear exactly where your price slips, on your very next call.
The Message Ceiling Scorecard. Five questions, one number, and the ceiling holding your income down.
It all comes down to one moment. The right person hears you, and thinks, "That's me."
TESTIMONIALS
What Coaches Are Saying
Lisa, registered nurse, forced out of the state public health role she'd held for twenty years
"Within 60 days of doing this work I had launched my own consulting company and I was making more than I had in the corporate career I'd spent decades building."
Her book, Swimming Up, became a number one Amazon bestseller. She spends time with her grandkids. She went to India.
Melanie, professor and empowerment coach, from about $120,000 to close to $700,000
About $400,000 on the way. A wait list, a TEDx talk, LA Weekly and The New York Weekly.
Karin E., HR Director and Consultant
"Since working with Kisma I have doubled my income." A $25,000 raise and an assistant.
Lenny Morris, Sales Trainer and Speaker
"I've increased revenue growth through sales by 400%. It's mind-boggling how good the teachings are."
Amanda, stylist turned soul stylist
"Hit six figures. Retreats in Florence, Milan and Tokyo. A TV show in the works."
Jen, from corporate finance to money coach
Now a bestselling author with a TED Talk, speaking on stages.
Cathal Walsh, M. Ed.
"Through Kisma's teachings and self-coaching exercises, I finally learned how to let go of limiting beliefs that were holding me back."
Since then, in his words, he's "attracted so much abundance in my business."
Meegan, leaving her job by November
She put part of her model on Meetup on a Saturday. By that week, a woman had signed up for a session with her. She's since scheduled two in-person meetup groups.
Aubrey, a client, in one of our workshops
Her first answer was all coaching language.
"Bringing awareness. Removing friction." I asked, "Imagine he's sitting in front of you. What just happened to him?" She said, "I probably lost him." So we found what he actually wanted, and she said it in his words. I told her, "You could go and have that sale tonight."
Brenda, a client
She had "food freedom" buried in her description.
I said, "That's the name of your program. The Food Freedom Formula."
Everybody who has ever dieted hears that and goes, "I want that."
Jeannie, retired registered nurse
"I am a retired Registered Nurse and realized that I am not ready for full-time retirement."
What Comes With Your Ticket
The Live Paid Workshop
The Profitable Coach Training
2 hours, live with me. The four lines that lose a stranger, the seven places it shows up, the live rewrite, the scorecard and the The Profitable Coach Training.
The recording
Yours to keep, so you can come back to it whenever you need it.
Your page
Your three lines and your scorecard number, written by you, during the training. It's the page you take into your next sales call.
The Scorecard Guarantee
Stay through the scorecard near the end of the training. If you don't leave knowing exactly which ceiling is holding your income down, email us any time in the 30 days after the training. We'll refund your ticket in full, no questions asked, and you keep the recording.
Your ticket: $47
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Why It's Only $47
When I run these trainings, some of the coaches who come decide they want to go further with me and my team. That's why the training stays at $47.
And if you take what you learn and run with it on your own, that's completely fine. If you want to hear more after, we'll share. If you don't, that's okay.
"What you've created here is very unique from other business programs I've studied and it's really great."
A client who already had a meditation coaching business
Your Questions, Answered
What if I can't make it live?
The recording comes with your ticket, and it's yours to keep. I'd love for you to come live, because the live rewrite happens in real time. Either way, your ticket covers you.
I've done certifications and courses before. Why would this be different?
Because most of them go straight to your funnel and your content. We do the Authority Shift first. It's the step they leave out. And if you stay through the scorecard and don't know exactly which ceiling is holding your income down, you get your ticket back in full.
I'm not a salesperson, and I don't want to be pushy. Is this for me?
It was built for you. Most of the coaches I work with are heart-centered and felt awkward selling. You'll see why that happens, and what changes it. Get your ticket and see for yourself.
I'm just starting out, or coming back, or still in my job. Is this for me?
Yes. Two of the three people this is built for are exactly that. Meegan is still in her job, and the week she put part of her model on Meetup, a woman signed up for a session with her. Get your ticket, and bring the sentence you say today.
I'm in my seventies, and I'm not a tech person.
We have two retired nurses in their seventies using the technology and having sales conversations. And I'm 65. I recommit every single day. All you need for this is a link and a pen. Get your ticket.
Do I need to be on social media?
No. You don't need to be an influencer. You just need to be clear and visible enough. The training is about what you say, wherever you say it. Get your ticket and bring the line you use now.
Does the calculator apply if I don't have a package yet?
Yes. Use the price you'd love to charge, and count the clients you'd want each month. The question is the same. What is waiting costing you? Run your number, then get your ticket.
Is the guarantee real? How does it work?
Yes. Stay through the scorecard near the end. If you don't leave knowing exactly which ceiling is holding your income down, email us any time in the 30 days after the training. Full refund, no questions asked, and you keep the recording. One email. Get your ticket.
What's the catch?
The one I told you about above. Some coaches want to go further with me after the training, and if that's you, we'll talk. If it isn't, enjoy what you learned. Either way, that's why it's [FILL: ticket price].
ONE LAST WORD
Your Next "What Do You Do?"
The next time someone asks what you do, it's going to end one of two ways.
"Oh, that's interesting," and they ask about the kids. Or, "Wait. That's me. How do I work with you?"
And every time it ends the first way, it compounds. The loss of income. The loss of impact. The loss of trust in yourself.
For $47 and 2 hours, I'll show you the one reason it keeps happening, the seven places it shows up, and the three-step shift that changes it. You'll leave with your own page and your number.
It's live on Tues., Nov 17th at 1pm Pacific | 4pm Eastern, and the live rewrite happens in real time. If you wait and wait, that dream isn't going to become more potent. It's going to drift further and further out of your reach.
Worst case? You stay through the scorecard, you still don't know which ceiling is holding your income down, you email us, and you get every penny back.
Best case? The next person who asks says, "I need that."
Clear is kind.
The recording comes with your ticket. Stay through the scorecard, or your ticket back.
Big hugs. I'll see you in the training.
Kisma
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